September 19th, 2005
|07:44 pm - How important is it to cure cancer?|
We kind of take forgranted that it's an important and good thing to find a cure for cancer, but look it this way. We're all going to die of something some time. Some new disease will kill us, or we'll all start living to 103 and have to find more money for health care and nursing homes, and the retirement age will be raised because social security will run out and no one can afford pensions anymore.
How important is it to cure cancer really?
Since some people want to know I will give my opinion here also. Except I have no opinion because I don't know. It's horrible when anyone you love dies, and it's horrible when they die young, or from something painful. But like I said, everyone is going to die of something, and we can't cure everything, we can't stop death. So I don't know. That's why I think it's interesting to get people's opinion.
|Date:||September 20th, 2005 12:11 am (UTC)|| |
I can only think of 2 other conflicts, one of which is pointless, a specific death wish (I want to die of old age), the other more construed to while you're alive, where you really can't do much more in your life, but sit and wait to die. The cure would mean victims can relive their life once again.
Other than that, death is inevitable.
as bad as it sounds i think we cure too much and i am for the selection of the fittest.. we are creating the end of our species like this, too much inferior genetic material survives
thanks for you opinion here too. all i know is if i or a loved one had cancer, i would want there to be a cure. as well i think more importantly would be to clean up our environment,,, which is what i think is the cause of cancer
|Date:||September 20th, 2005 12:59 am (UTC)|| |
This logic is absolutely flawed.
If we're all going to die of something, then why did we stop Hitler when he was gassing 6 million+ minorities? Why do we have police officers to try to investigate or prevent murders if everyone is going to die eventually? If a mother is going to die during childbirth unless she gets a C-section, why not just let her go the way of the Dodo?
Because we're human beings, that's why. We have the capacity to stop death to a certain degree, and thus we exercise that capacity. If you want to talk about "evolving", that's our genetic advantage: not only do we have the mental acuity to create such technologies, but we have the free will in our choice whether or not to exercise that power. So if you want to delay death as long as possible and the means to do so exist, then why not?
Oh yeah, and to the poster above me, snoww_wwhite: this "survival of the fittest" crap is just that: Crap. Leave the evolution to the biologists, because if you are honestly backing this argument, then you do not understand the basic tenants of evolution. For any SIGNIFICANT evolution to occur, you have to allow for hundreds of thousands, sometimes even millions of years. Consider that human beings in their current form have only been around for approximately 33,000. We're more likely to blow the shit out of ourselves and the planet than we are to "de-evolve" as a species. Besides, I don't see you bitching and moaning about your house, computer, and techno music. You don't think your sedentary lifestyle is completely contrary to the environment in which human beings are supposed to operate? If you want to talk about natural selection, people like you would be the first to go. Come back when you're tan and weigh 40 pounds less, and THEN you can talk to me about "evolution" and "survival of the fittest."
|Date:||September 20th, 2005 02:00 am (UTC)|| |
I totally agree with you.
If we're all going to die of something, then why did we stop Hitler when he was gassing 6 million+ minorities?...
Your example is not really comparable. There is a big difference between a natural death, and an evil act like murder. At the risk of sounding cliche', death is as natural as birth, and is not an evil thing in itself. We did not stop Hitler because we were against death itself; we did not fight to rescue the victims because we thought they should live forever. We stopped Hitler because of his reprehensible actions.
i work in a nursing home. and see people suffer. i say cure it. its the economy im more worried about, that as we live longer healthier lives, how will we be able to support ourselves?
|Date:||September 20th, 2005 01:20 am (UTC)|| |
If you are living a healthy life, you can work to support yourself. If you can't work to support yourself, then you are shit out of luck.
I believe first and foremost something should be found to ease the pain. Yes, it's terrible when someone dies. I've had faimly die of cancer. But it hurt more knowing they were in pain and there was nothing someone could do to stop it than the fact that they were dying in the first place. Cure cancer? Sure. Get rid of pain? Probably a better idea to start with.
Random, tangental comment:
Personally, I know I'm gonna die someday, and it will most likely be of cancer. I'm a smoker, cancer 'runs in my family' so to speak, and I don't do too many healthy habits. But I don't fear death. I can look in the mirror and say to myself 'I will die someday' and not fear it. I think if more people get into that mindset, the world would be a better place.
|Date:||September 20th, 2005 06:08 am (UTC)|| |
I believe that it's important; but no such is important enough for the government to take my money to fund research.
we all know cancer is gods answer to women, just as AIDS is gods answer to niggers and faggots.
|Date:||September 21st, 2005 12:11 am (UTC)|| |
|Date:||September 21st, 2005 03:01 am (UTC)|| |
*bitch slaps you*
I don't do high fives.
I have wondered the same thing myself, and I think you have phrased the question well.
As far as why we even bother, I think that human beings (and all living beings, really) have a very strong desire to live and to keep living. When confronted with an obstacle to that, we will instinctually fight with all our strength to overcome it. It is built into us. I don't think that's a bad thing; after all, a species would not survive very long if its members did not have a will to live.
I would not say, however, that finding a cure for cancer is the most important thing or the highest good that our society should hope to accomplish. Death may be difficult, but it is morally neutral - it is not good or bad, it just is. Curing cancer is not a bad thing, but I would say it is more important to end things that are actually evil.
you can cure cancer, just live in a bubble free of all human polution
I think there is a cure for cancer. But that would be one really expensive prescription. I think the government understands that there are so many *savages* that would riot if they didn't offer the cure at a welfare affordable price so they are just reaping as much cash from "find the cure" funds as possible before releasing it to the wild. Thats what I would do.
And by the way, don't mean to offend anyone (or maybe I do) but disease is a natural population control.